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Friday, December 16, 2011
Big Bang and God Are the Same
Creationists sneer at the Big Bang theory. Astrophysicists exclude God from their equation. But it's all the same, meeting the same paradox. They differ only in names. None answers the question.
"What reality is really like is certainly something very different from what our senses perceive."
That can not be possibly true. For then farming would be impossible. If we did not know nature, how would we know the need to plow the soil, put in manure, water it, grow seed on it.
To be a philosopher, I would think requires being an agrarianist. I've worked on a Christmas Tree farm. You have to know reality to get things accomplished. Fungus and beetle pests are constantly attacking, the Ph of the soil needs to be considered. Does a farmer know reality? Surely, he does--or else he could not farm.
The Doric Greeks discovered the Natural Law. Plato says this: "And so by reason of the smallest part or class, and of the knolwedge which resides in this presiding and ruling part of itself, the whole State, being thus constituted according to nature, will be wise; and this, which has the only knowledge orthy to be called wisdom, has been ordained by nature to be of all classes the least." (Republic, B. Jowett translation, 429)
Nature is constructed around certain laws. The Cretans saw "Order in nature". They said, "Look on Creation, See Order, Know God". (Paraphrase from the Laws). Order presupposes Intelligence and Intelligence exists in something. The whole of the cosmos is ordered on these metaphysical laws of nature.
Xenophon writes, "...does not nature teach righteousness", the dictum that all things are constructed to do one thing? One has to be a reader of Nature. We have to pull that out from nature.
Otherwise it is mind-boggling to consider the Big Bang, Time, Creation and such. It is all very interesting to contemplate it.
WLW, thanks for your wise comment. I should have said "What all of reality is like..." Of course, we know some of it. Farming must be one of the best ways of realizing and practicing that. "Il faut cultiver notre jardin."
What I see in these practices is how we define an area and a need, learning to control and utilize it. We define sort of a microcosmos, which we learn to master. That way, we even learn how to fly with ridiculously heavy machinery.
But it doesn't mean we understand reality as a whole. We've just learned to handle part of it.
Another thing, which I regret not having examined enough yet: When the old Greeks said God, what did they mean, exactly? Probably the divine as sort of an entity separate from earthly creatures, or the plural of all divine creatures. Sort of like Elohim.
Once, I wanted to do my history of ideas dissertation on what "God" is, exactly, but my professor reminded me that the literature on the subject during the last, say, 2,400 years is practically impenetrable.
Thru the principle of macrocosm/microcosm we know all of reality. As it goes in the small, so goes the larger. Everything repeats. Nature teaches macrocosm/microcosm.
Nature teaches "Ex Uno plures"---"Out of One, Many". That is what a patriarch is. Take a large rock, smash it, you have a ton of little rocks. This is what the Big Bang is, "Ex Uno, plures". Out of one big bang---all the diversity in the cosmos.
We don't know all of it, but certainly the Natural law, the metaphysical laws of nature, are throughout nature. Even God ensconces within himself the Natural Law.
On the other hand, the Cosmos is mysterious. Life is mysterious. The relationship between men and women and women are certainly mysterious to men--even after living with them for 6000 years! Do we know what goes on in our domestic cats? Don't they Rule? And electricity. Electricity is still a mystery. Life is a mystery. We know some of it--we don't know all of it.
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"What reality is really like is certainly something very different from what our senses perceive."
ReplyDeleteThat can not be possibly true. For then farming would be impossible. If we did not know nature, how would we know the need to plow the soil, put in manure, water it, grow seed on it.
To be a philosopher, I would think requires being an agrarianist. I've worked on a Christmas Tree farm. You have to know reality to get things accomplished. Fungus and beetle pests are constantly attacking, the Ph of the soil needs to be considered. Does a farmer know reality? Surely, he does--or else he could not farm.
The Doric Greeks discovered the Natural Law. Plato says this: "And so by reason of the smallest part or class, and of the knolwedge which resides in this presiding and ruling part of itself, the whole State, being thus constituted according to nature, will be wise; and this, which has the only knowledge orthy to be called wisdom, has been ordained by nature to be of all classes the least." (Republic, B. Jowett translation, 429)
Nature is constructed around certain laws. The Cretans saw "Order in nature". They said, "Look on Creation, See Order, Know God". (Paraphrase from the Laws). Order presupposes Intelligence and Intelligence exists in something. The whole of the cosmos is ordered on these metaphysical laws of nature.
Xenophon writes, "...does not nature teach righteousness", the dictum that all things are constructed to do one thing? One has to be a reader of Nature. We have to pull that out from nature.
Otherwise it is mind-boggling to consider the Big Bang, Time, Creation and such. It is all very interesting to contemplate it.
Think you are right about imagination.
ReplyDelete(Besides, about Tao Te Ching .. http://ericsecher.blogspot.com/2011/12/tolerance-and-compassion.html)
Eric
WLW, thanks for your wise comment. I should have said "What all of reality is like..." Of course, we know some of it. Farming must be one of the best ways of realizing and practicing that. "Il faut cultiver notre jardin."
ReplyDeleteWhat I see in these practices is how we define an area and a need, learning to control and utilize it. We define sort of a microcosmos, which we learn to master. That way, we even learn how to fly with ridiculously heavy machinery.
But it doesn't mean we understand reality as a whole. We've just learned to handle part of it.
Another thing, which I regret not having examined enough yet: When the old Greeks said God, what did they mean, exactly? Probably the divine as sort of an entity separate from earthly creatures, or the plural of all divine creatures. Sort of like Elohim.
Once, I wanted to do my history of ideas dissertation on what "God" is, exactly, but my professor reminded me that the literature on the subject during the last, say, 2,400 years is practically impenetrable.
Eric, yes I saw your blog post. It's strange that our long-time Christian society needs an old Chinese to remind us about compassion.
ReplyDeleteThru the principle of macrocosm/microcosm we know all of reality. As it goes in the small, so goes the larger. Everything repeats. Nature teaches macrocosm/microcosm.
ReplyDeleteNature teaches "Ex Uno plures"---"Out of One, Many". That is what a patriarch is. Take a large rock, smash it, you have a ton of little rocks. This is what the Big Bang is, "Ex Uno, plures". Out of one big bang---all the diversity in the cosmos.
We don't know all of it, but certainly the Natural law, the metaphysical laws of nature, are throughout nature. Even God ensconces within himself the Natural Law.
On the other hand, the Cosmos is mysterious. Life is mysterious. The relationship between men and women and women are certainly mysterious to men--even after living with them for 6000 years! Do we know what goes on in our domestic cats? Don't they Rule? And electricity. Electricity is still a mystery. Life is a mystery. We know some of it--we don't know all of it.
Indeed, there are different schools of thought. It is up to you which to believe.
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ReplyDeleteway of looking at it, the universe would cease to exist if nothing happened to it or inside of it.
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